As I commented before, the distinction between what goes on in public (in the public arena) and what is done by public officials as agents of the people is lost on some people. Including, apparently, Bill O'Reilly.
From an item at Media Matters:
From the June 27 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, which also featured guest Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council:
O'REILLY: But if there are other things around it, then they should be able to have it, just like the Supreme Court. Right? There's a copy of the Ten Commandments right over the justice's head -- chief justice's head. But there are other, Magna Carta, things like that. So I mean, what's the rub?
MURRAY: Well, I don't think they should have it in any circumstances.
O'REILLY: You'd ban the Ten Commandments from any public exposition?
MURRAY: I think religious symbols are inappropriate for --
O'REILLY: All religious symbols?
MURRAY: Yes.
O'REILLY: OK, nothing. So secular society, religious symbols should be banned, kind of like in the Soviet Union and Red China?
MURRAY: Well, no, I think that people have a right to practice their religion. And I don't think public --
O'REILLY: You can't have it in a public arena?
MURRAY: In a public institution --
O'REILLY: Can't have it, ban it?
MURRAY: Yes. And I also --
O'REILLY: You know what you sound like? You sound like a fascist.
MURRAY: No, I --
O'REILLY: Yes, you do. Ban it.
MURRAY: No, I think public institutions should be neutral, should not have religious displays. I think people are free to practice their religion on private property in the way that they want to, but I think public institutions should not play a role in presenting religious --
O'REILLY: All right. What are you saying, Mr. Perkins? Did you figure out this ruling?
A common O'Reilly "debate" tactic is to interrupt his guest with short questions that seem to demand immediate answers: "All religious symbols?", "You can't have it in a public arena?", "Can't have it, ban it?" When he does that, the guest is thrown off: does he continue with his answer to a previous question or try to quickly 'clarify' the point and then continue? In the first case, O'Reilly simply repeats his question, leaving the impression that the guest is avoiding the issue, while in the second O'Reilly asks another question and spins the talk away to another point. In either case, the guest never gets a chance to completely state his position and comes out of the segment sounding like a dolt.
O'Reilly also likes to use tangential comments to get his guest off track. Here he does it with his comment "So secular society, religious symbols should be banned, kind of like in the Soviet Union and Red China?" Now the guest is left looking like he supported the Soviet Union totalitarian regime unless he tries to specifically address that issue. And zing! The guest is off message!
But here O'Reilly also demonstrates either his ignorance of the issues or his willful disregard for them. Notice how he goes from discussing religious symbols in a "public exposition" (which is vague, but the guest seemed to take it to mean an exposition by the government) to a "secular society" which in his mind means banning all religous symbols from any display in public whatsoever, thus banning them from the "public arena". The guest is left appearing to support not the removal of religous displays put in place by governmental bodies or officials but the banning of all religious symbols---cover up those crosses on church buildings! When the guest tries to clarify, O'Reilly cuts him off and moves on to the next person.
But who is advocating that all religious symbols be banned from any display in public (meaning: a private individual or group displaying religious symbols where they may be viewed in public)? I have not read of any such call by the ACLU or the Americans United for Separation of Church and State, the primary actors in these cases (which does not mean that there aren't any -- but I have tried to keep abreast of events).
O'Reilly's guest simply wants government to stop displaying religious symbols. O'Reilly turns him into a "fascist" who wants to ban all public displays of religious symbols (which is not his position) by conflating public displays with displays by public officials.
